Thursday, 2 December 2010

Trying to free Marco

Me 23:41
Marco!
Your the guy from RSD nation right?
23:41
yea, that's right
Me
23:41
yes fantastic
23:41
the one that couldn't get the link from the blog
hahahah
Me
23:41
You ever read any eckhart tolle?
23:41
umm no
Me
23:41
good
23:41
but, just from hearing people say stuff about him
Me
23:41
So tell me Marco, what are 'you'?
23:41
you instantly get the idea
Me
23:42
he's good but he doesn't quite nail it
23:42
once my psychologist asked me this
I just couldn't answer
Me
23:42
It's a tough question alright
23:42
sure
Me
23:42
I used to think I was some kind of soul in a human body, then i thought I was part of some awareness
which is what tolle talks about
but then I realised I am nothing.
23:43
"awareness"?
like
Me
23:43
the space in which thoughts occur
23:43
oh... i get it
Me
23:43
Like a lot of people imagine themselves in a cinema, what you see is on the screen, the sounds are coming from the speakers, and whatever 'you' are is sat in the room watching
however, what I realised was that there is noone, it's an empty room
there is only the perception itself
that's what I mean by, no see-er, only see-ing
23:44
yes
Me
23:44
My friend who I tried to link you too worked it out first and he showed me
23:44
so our 'materialized' body isn't anything
our thoughts are nothing
Me
23:45
well it's really just that
23:45
there is only the 'experience' ?
Me 
23:45
a boddy, our thoughts are thoughts. but they are not ours
they are just thoughts
there is just vision
there is just sounds
however the brain naturally combines all this into an illusion of self
which seperates you from reality
this leads to an ego arising
deep down you know this is a lie, and so a large part of your life is spent in drama and emotion to defend that lie
however if you really look at it, it fades away, you see the emperor has no clothes
I hope that's what you experienced when you first PMed me about what I had in my sig, at least that was the aim of it
23:47
something like that
i felt weird for some seconds
Me
23:48
What I want you to do now, is ask yourself, is what I'm saying a possibility
just for a moment, look at the world as if there is no see-er, no you behind the screen looking at your vision, but just vision itself
i don't want you to believe it, but just see if it's possible
23:49
yes it is
even though is naturally difficult to bypass that "brain" limit you described
Me
23:50
yes, but if you honestly look at it, you see it's just a construct, a lie
the concept of duality between yourself and reality disapears
do you see it?
23:51
yes, it is possible
however I wanted to ask you
what did this bring to your life? I mean
did you bypass the limit?
Me
23:52
I recognised the duality I believed in, between myself and the universe was false
You can too, it's fun and leads to a lot of interesting things to think about
there are far more fundamental truths beyound mathematical discoveries and physics, literally right in front of your eyes
if you honestly look you will see it
Tell me Marco, the universe is all just atoms, matter or whatever, how can there be a self?

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